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26 November 2005

hmmm ... why ... you know ... this reminds me of that old Vietnam war thing ... ya think?

In a speech in Congress, she called Rep. Murtha, the career combat Marine who urged a quick withdrawal from Iraq, a coward. That really went over well with the House. Is there something wrong with the part of her head that runs her mouth?

Not a bad wrap.

Perhaps the magical, mystical, meaningless milestone of 2000 dead American military personnel in Iraq finally woke Americans out of their War Coma.

And now even Congress -- Democrats and Republicans alike who fell all over themselves to help Bush start this war -- now even Congress is noticing that the war is achieving nothing positive for America, and has degenerated into a shooting gallery for American troops. The people are starting to care about the troops. So members of Congress are now having to pretend they care about the troops.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen -- the dreaded "another Vietnam."

That's what it's been from the start, with its very own Tonkin Gulf Incident that was, like the original, Total Bullshit. The Weapons of Mass Destruction, the secret uranium from Niger.

Now huge numbers of American voters see it, and see all the lies, deception, corruption that was always at the core. So now tiny numbers of members of Congress are being forced to pretend they see it, too. If they want to survive the next Congressional election.

George Bush, fresh from hiding from the meltdown of multiple scandals among top Republicans in Washington by being presidential on a China tour, is back to his ranch in Crawford, Texas, to hide from Washington some more.

Bad hiding place, just as it was this summer. Cindy Sheehan and her anti-war protester friends are back, a mile down the road from the Bush ranch. This time the cops are busting them -- but just like the good old Vietnam Days, the more antiwar protesters they bust, and the nastier they are about it, the shittier the government and the president look.

Vleeptron PizzaQ: How many antiwar protesters did the cops bust during World War II?

Vleeptron wishes to bring to your attention that The Boston Globe is now owned by The New York Times. And yes, that's a Bad Thing -- two formerly excellent independent views on the news are now just one less excellent, less independent view. Vleeptron recommends they split up again to become excellent again.

But this ain't a bad weather report. For those who wanted to keep growing a crop of war and senseless death, it's raining hot shit, and finding shelter from the shitstorm is getting harder.

What the fuck's wrong with Jean Schmidt's brain, the part that's connected to her mouth? Was she drunk?

As for Rep. Charles Bass -- the poor, poor man. He thinks the longer we keep our troops in Iraq, the more stable the region will be.

Yo, Charles -- the longer we keep our troops in Iraq, the more explosively unstable the region will be, and it will stay that way for decades. Southeast Asia -- ever heard of that? This Shock And Awe shit ... Charles, it's just not working the way Bush said it would to shove Freedom and Democracy up those damn ungrateful Muslims' asses.

And if our Commander in Chief is allowed to be any more successful in stabilizing the region, America will be at war with Iran and Syria.

Does ANYBODY who doesn't work in the White House believe ANYTHING Bush, Cheney, Condoleeza Rice and Rumsfeld say about Iraq anymore? Raise your hand if you believe ANYTHING they say. Leave A Comment. Buy a War Bond today.


The Boston Globe
Thursday 24 November 2005

Around US, arguments
escalating on Iraq war

Debate on withdrawal is a top topic

By Susan Milligan, Globe Staff

WASHINGTON -- At a meeting with senior citizens in Wrentham [Massachusetts] this week, Representative James McGovern was ready to talk about the sweeping Medicare prescription drug plan. Instead, the first question a senior at the event asked the Worcester Democrat was, "When are we getting out of Iraq?"

The war has gone on for more than 2 1/2 years, but the debate over the action escalated dramatically in the past week, as the House of Representatives engaged in a nasty fight over the reasons for the war and the best way to end it.

Now, the war of words is likely to continue across the nation during Thanksgiving week, as Americans sit down to holiday meals and debate the future of the war -- which has grown more and more unpopular as US deaths have mounted and Iraq remains unstable. The White House and members of Congress, meanwhile, are using the holiday week to make their cases to an increasingly skeptical electorate.

The Republican National Committee is running television ads this week saying that Democrats who contend that the White House misused intelligence to justify the war had publicly endorsed those same conclusions before the invasion. Meanwhile, the liberal activist group is running an emotionally charged ad starting on Thanksgiving Day showing a family gathered around a holiday table; an empty chair suggests that a loved one, a soldier sent to Iraq, is missing.

"Some folks won't be home this holiday season," an announcer intones, as a crying woman is comforted by her family. "Their president misled America to send them in and has no plan to get them out."

President Bush is not being spared during the holiday week. A dozen war protesters were arrested yesterday for setting up camp near the president's home in Crawford, Texas, where he is spending Thanksgiving. Cindy Sheehan, an antiwar activist whose son died last year in Iraq, is planning to arrive at the camp later this week.

Bickering over the war has been building for months, with Democrats -- even those who voted for the war resolution -- accusing the White House of selectively using intelligence to buttress its argument to invade Iraq. The White House and sympathetic Republicans have called critics of the war "irresponsible" for attacking the president and suggesting a scheduled retreat, which the White House says damages troop morale.

But the argument reached a nasty and unusually personal level last week, when Representative John Murtha, a hawkish Democrat from Pennsylvania, startled his colleagues by calling for a speedy pullout from Iraq. Murtha, a decorated Marine who fought in Vietnam and is known as a strong supporter of the Pentagon, said last week that "the US cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily" and that "it is time to bring [the troops] home."

The heated session, which lasted well into the night, marked a rare Friday night floor meeting and was one of a handful of occasions when the House has had an all-out debate over the war since the invasion started in March 2003. The ensuing brouhaha on Capitol Hill -- which included the suggestion by Representative Jean Schmidt, Republican of Ohio, that Murtha's position was that of a "coward," spurring boos and catcalls -- followed lawmakers home as they returned to their districts for a two-week Thanksgiving break.

Representative Jeb Bradley, Republican of New Hampshire, said his constituents asked him about the floor debate when he came back to the Granite State. Bradley said he was disappointed to hear the attacks on Murtha, but explained to New Hampshire residents that he thought a pullout is a bad idea.

"I think the key ingredient is getting our troops home, which is what everyone wants," Bradley said. He added that he hoped the December elections would put Iraq on the path to running itself so that American troops can leave.

McGovern said the question of Iraq has come up virtually everywhere he has traveled in his district during the recess. And Representative John Tierney, a Salem Democrat, said people approached him in the airport and at a town meeting Saturday, remarking on the debate and asking when the war would end.

"It seemed that the buzz was much more intensified. People are really engaged," said Tierney, who voted against the 2002 resolution authorizing force in Iraq.

After a speech slamming Democrats last week, Vice President Dick Cheney offered a somewhat more measured defense of the Bush administration policies on Tuesday, trying to balance respect for Murtha with continued disgust with Murtha's fellow Democrats who suggest the White House manipulated intelligence to win support for the war. Senator Barack Obama, an Illinois Democrat, entered the fray while addressing the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations on Tuesday, urging Bush to "take the politics out of Iraq once and for all," admit mistakes, and work with Democrats to "find a responsible way out."

Senator Edward M. Kennedy said the White House "misled" Congress and the American public about the war, publicly smeared those who disagreed with the president, and "rewarded" those who backed Bush's drive to war. While Cheney took Murtha and Democrats to task for daring to suggest a speedy withdrawal, Bush awarded former CIA director George Tenet -- an administration loyalist whose agency helped gather the intelligence used to justify the invasion -- the Presidential Medal of Freedom, Kennedy noted in an interview.

"It's difficult for me to see how the vice president can do this with a serious face," the Massachusetts Democrat said of Cheney's criticism of Murtha. "These have been the ones who have rewarded the manipulators, and those who have been a part of the whole field of failed policy."

Representative Charles Bass, a New Hampshire Republican, said he is telling constituents that it may be necessary to keep US troops in the region for an extended period because of US interest in Middle East stability. "Some just shook their heads. But people are listening. That's all I can expect," Bass said.

© Copyright 2005 Globe Newspaper Company


Blogger U.B. said...

From Al Jazeera Hompage:

US and British occupation of Iraq is regarded as the re-emergence of the old colonialist practices of the western empires in some quarters. The real ambitions underlying the brutal onslaught are still highly questionable - and then there are the blatant lies over weapons of mass destruction originally used to justify the war. There were no great victory marches by the occupiers, nor were they thrown garlands of flowers and greeted in triumph. More US soldiers have died in Iraq since George Bush declared an end to the war on 1 May 2003 prompting the question: Will Iraq turn into a new Vietnam eventually bringing the US to its senses ... or perhaps to its knees?

Iraq's history, and along with it that of the Arab Muslim world, speaks of several similar encounters. In the past, enemies attacked from East and West before they were swallowed by the moving sands of the region, or forced to retreat, leaving behind a phoenix-like people who adore life and still accept to die for their freedom.

The escalating Iraqi resistance seems to be setting the stage for another act which might usher in a new Arab World or set the clock ticking for the end of yet another empire.


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